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I am using Quartus II version 12 web version. It seems there is no in-built simulator. From site I can download modelsim from Mentor Graphics. How much time it will take to download? I am in a big hurry. As an alternate please suggest a different version with in-built simulator.
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The simulator went away with versions 9-12.
But the built in simulator is not that good. modelsim simulator is much more powerful (and industry standard).- Mark as New
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Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. You mentioned that, the simulator is not that good. Good or bad whatever it is: I need an in-built simulator. Please tell me whether there is an in-built simulator in web version 12 and how to use it.
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There is no simulator in Version 12. You will have to install Modelsim.
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Both posts are right. You can use the University Program qsim tool if you want to keep the familiar waveform stimulus definition and result representation. But it's just a wrapper around ModelSim AE.
But ModelSim AE is now seamlessly integrated with Quartus and can be operated quite easily.- Mark as New
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Hi. Since the built-in simulator now is gone, I missed something that I could do quite easily with it. I have been searching for days now about how to do it with ModelSim-Altera.
Here's my problem. As an example I gave 1 simple dataflow Verilog code using multiplier (a megafunction): module mult(a, b, c); input [31:0] a; input [31:0] b; output [31:0] c; assign c = a * b; endmodule With the built-in simulator it was quite easy to run a *timing* simulation to get some estimation of the delay of the multiplier as I get from the following snapshots: Simple Multiplier timing simulation: http://www.muhazam.com/public-prm/alteraforum001.png Simple Multiplier timing simulation [zoomed in]: http://www.muhazam.com/public-prm/alteraforum002.png From the snaps I can estimate that when a = 5589, then when b changed from 0 to 34970, it took c = a * b, around 12ns to get the stable final answer. I have tried so many tutorials, YouTubes, PDFs to get something that accurate using ModelSim-Altera, including that Gate Level Timing Simulation with Cyclone II libraries loaded. But still in vain. ModelSim just doesn't give that impressive picture of signal changes as in the old built-in one. Can someone help?- Mark as New
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--- Quote Start --- google: http://www.altera.com/education/univ/software/qsim/unv-qsim.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s3opm3wrhy --- Quote End --- Billion billion thanks Bertulus. You are really a life saver.
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Hi Bertulus !! Thanks a lot for the useful info. You saved my life.
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